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[inaudible].
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Welcome to this week's episode of Queer Goggles.
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I'm Brian Path from the source LGBT plus center.
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So this episode we're going to be taking a deeper look at our leadership academy clinic visits.
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There are eight participants in our leadership academy and they all go out to local clinics to see what it's like to access reproductive health care for LGBT plus youth.
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So, um, without further ado, let's hear from them exactly how those clinic visits went.
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Ace just got pulled in when I texted you.
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I was like, oh boy, it's going to take a minute to go.
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Whoa, whoa.
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That person the too, I had a lady first like a nurse, yeah.
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Person.
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And then after doctor came in and told me that I wasn't pregnant and wondering like what was going on cause I had a makeup fit my period, but late in the morning, oh Holly.
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So I just made up a date and like, oh it's been two months.
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I'm like, now what about like, um, did they on the intake forms, did they ask you any like uh, like so now nothing pronouns, nothing, no preferred name.
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I just use Max.
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Yeah, that's good.
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[inaudible] um, so overall like if you're going to get a grade a a minus two B plus.
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Really?
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Yeah.
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That's good.
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That's good to hear.
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Um, was there anything like about it that was felt like not great the way, I'm not kidding.
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It was pretty navy.
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Just, yeah.
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And I told my old teacher and I was like, cause my LZ, someone, one of my old schools and I'm like, no, no, no, no, no.
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My teacher was not.
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Yeah.
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Oh my gosh.
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What's in there waiting for one of her kids with her kids.
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And I was like, she has my mom's phone number.
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I can't let her see me here kind of thing because my mom is not that I'm doing another clinic.
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Yeah.
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So I was like, okay, okay.
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So that's like, that's the problem with living in a small town and yeah, we're going to see somebody.
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Right.
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Both their roles are so sad really.
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And I could hear everything wanting to hear them talk shit about her.
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And the worst part for me was the bathroom cause it was like covered in pee.
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Those pee everywhere in the bathroom.
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It was so gross.
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Yeah.
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Going to high school.
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So how did it go?
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Lacking?
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You not willing to speak?
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No, no, no.
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When did that bad?
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No, it wasn't, it wasn't guide is she's like awkward cause that's what that is.
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Yeah it was.
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It was fine.
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They were fine.
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I don't think I would even talk lot about sexual history, which was weird I guess because you're there for an STI test.
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Right?
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Um, all the list got real with depression and drugs.
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That was fun.
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That happened last time with one of our other participants.
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Real real with depression and drugs.
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I was like, I don't need to be Trager Brandon.
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Yeah.
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I'm just here to see if I have like a really gross sexual diseases.
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Like did they ask about um, partners or any past how I identified and I was like, I'm a bisexual.
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Oh good.
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They asked and so did that trigger any other like special bisexual questions?
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No.
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So that was ace and Max.
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They both went to planned parenthood to see if they could get their reproductive health screening and they needed to make an appointment.
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So what ended up happening is that we went to another clinic, a family healthcare network, and that's where those visits came in.
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Max had a fairly positive experience, I think.
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Um, he gave them an a minus ace, however, felt less comfortable and gave them a c minus.
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It was a fun experience to spend the afternoon with them.
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Certainly learned a lot.
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What seems to happen is that a lot of these clinics don't ask, so g data questions, which is sexual orientation, gender identity, there is no place on the form for people to self identify.
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So what often happens is someone who does the intake and ask the first set of questions, we'll broach the subject with whoever is there for their STI test.
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And sometimes there is a little bit of uncomfortability either between the person asking the question or the person who is, you know, telling a stranger how they identify, whether it's their gender identity or sexual orientation.
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Sometimes just telling that to a stranger's awkward, almost as awkward as a, the way that came out.
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But, um, our participants overwhelmingly say that if they were asked the question sort of anonymously on a form right up front, that they would feel more comfortable answering it truthfully.
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Uh, honestly.
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So it's nice to be able to put it on a form so that people can self identify and not have to deal with maybe some perceived bias of the individual who's asking, especially when you're living in a very conservative rural environment, there is the perception that people aren't going to be accepting.
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Whether that's true or not, it would be helpful just to have it on a form.
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So we spoke with three of our participants at the same time to see how their clinic visits went.
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Let's hear from Max, Kristin and Raquel.
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Hi, I'm Max and my pronouns are he him.
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And how old are you?
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Max?
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17 hi, I'm Chris thin.
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My pronouns are she, her and I'm 18 years old.
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I'm Raquel.
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I prefer they them pronouns and I am 21 all right, thank you.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So everybody here did clinic visits and I was with Max when you did yours?
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Yes.
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And that was interesting.
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It was.
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Can you talk about, do you remember if they had any like gender identifiers like on the application that were non binary or was it just male?
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Female?
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I Omni at Omni, they did have non-binary and transgender as an option I think.
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Oh Wow.
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If I remember correctly.
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Great.
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But the other place, no.
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No.
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Okay.
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That was family healthcare network.
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Right.
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What about you recall, was that something that you noticed on the intake forms?
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Um, planned parenthood did not have anything like that.
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However, the Visalia health care center, they had male, female, trans, um, female to male and then trans male to female and gender queer and other, oh, great.
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Yeah, that's pretty inclusive.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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No non-binary option.
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But gender queer is not really the same thing.
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That kind of clothes that they had me, I'm gender queer, that's all.
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Well they, they've worked really hard to do that.
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They actually asked us advice on that.
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Yeah.
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Just grew up really good.
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There is other options right in.
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So that that was trying their best.
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Yeah.
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What about you, Kristen?
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Did you notice anything about your intake form that that might not have been as inclusive?
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Well, I also went to planned parenthood and like Raquel said, they didn't really have an option for non-binary.
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But I think there might've been a question about, um, if you were the same gender as you were at birth.
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I think there was something like that, but it was like one of the later questions, but it was more so a, wasn't like what you identified as it was just to ask.
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So give us like, do you identify with the sex assigned at birth?
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Is it the same or different?
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Is it that kind of aggression the same or different?
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Yeah.
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And it was later on.
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I think so, yeah.
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So when you got into that question, was it like before you ever saw anybody or after it was before I saw anyone.
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Okay.
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Okay.
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So a lot of people went to planned parenthood and couldn't get an appointment, couldn't get in.
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Right.
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Like there wasn't, they needed to either go back and make an appointment or there wasn't a, they weren't open like the hours that people wanted to go.
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Um, so what was that link for you Max?
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I think you went for an appointment at can?
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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So when I went to go in for a walk in, they wouldn't, they were no walk-ins that day.
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So they said that all day was booked and I would have to come back in another day to make it that appointment.
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Not even for like
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the walk and I got to make the appointment, I have to come back another day.
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Oh they wouldn't even take an appointment from you.
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Okay.
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Cause that's how booked they were for the couple of days.
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It's good.
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They're busy but a barrier for you.
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So like with high school students you can check yourself out.
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Right?
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Like what if you checked yourself out of school and gone on the only day you had to go and couldn't get in and then had to go, like would you have gone back personally knowing wouldn't have, yeah.
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So you would have figured out another way to get what you need done?
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Yes.
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What about you recall?
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Um, I felt like I got really lucky cause I did do a walk in at planned parenthood and they took me in.
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Um, Christina was there the same day.
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I didn't know that it's not Christian.
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I'm walking out and crystal was telling me about, um, her struggles with it.
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I got there at two 30 in the afternoon and I left at three 39.
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Oh Wow.
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For walking.
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Yeah.
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Now what did you go for?
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And went for STI testing.
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But yeah, after hearing what Kristen had to go through, I felt pretty lucky.
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And so, um, for the STI testing, did they offer you, was that just, did they also offer you an HIV test?
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Yes, they did.
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Did you feel um, comfortable there?
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Yeah, the, the woman that, um, took me back was really nice and really helpful and gave me a bag full of condoms and plan B, so, oh good.
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Yeah.
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Okay.
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Talk to you about it or gave it to you.
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Just gave it to me.
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Wow.
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Yeah.
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And then did they talk to you about syphilis at all?
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They did not know.
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Okay.
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So That's interesting, right?
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Cause if you've had unprotected sex and you think you might be at risk for some other stuff, syphilis is, is something also you can catch.
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Right.
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And um, so that might've been helpful.
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Helpful to know.
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Did they talk to you about prep at all?
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They didn't know.
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Okay.
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And then what about your, how do you get your results from them?
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They said they'd call me but I haven't had to call back and they said, um, no news is good news.
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So, oh yeah.
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Famous last words.
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Notice his good days.
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We'll never hear from planned parenthood.
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Well that's, that's what we hear a lot from people like our youth that went out last year as well was that they got this, no news is good news thing and we don't really know if that's like accurate low.
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Yeah.
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I mean, I guess no news is good news, but you know what if I don't know, I would like to know.
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I think I would like to know, we might want to see if there's some sort of policy that we can work on in the future for California.
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Cause I feel like you should, you should, if you've gone through the hoops to get your, to go through and get an STI test or a pregnancy test or whatever, you should get your result back.
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They should know.
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I mean that's the, you've got to close the loop a little bit, right?
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Like if no one ever calls you, you might have something.
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And what about you, Kristen?
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What was your experience like?
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I went in after my class ended at like 9:00 AM so I took the bus over to planned parenthood.
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It didn't take that long to get there, but they had a sign on the door, no walk-ins.
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So I, um, called in to make an appointment and luckily they were able to schedule me for that day.
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But it was during a time where if my schedule was regular that day, I wouldn't have been able to make it.
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I would've had to go on the go the next day.
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But because my class happened to be canceled, I could go, I had to stay around the area for a really long time because I didn't know how long it would take to get, you know, there and back.
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I wanted to make sure I made this appointment.
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I didn't want to miss the bus again and then was out there for a couple of hours just walking around going to like smart and final[inaudible] yeah, just trying to find something to do.
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So I finally get there and I had to, it took me a long time to fill out the forms because technically my appointment was, I believe at one o'clock but they didn't come back until one o'clock so I didn't have time to fill out the forms before my one o'clock appointment.
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So, and because it was the first time I went in for birth control, it took like almost 30 minutes for me to fill out the form, get everything I needed with family packed, and then it was another 15 to 30 minutes before I could actually see someone that you were there for birth control.
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Um, was there anything on the, um, and there's lots of reasons why a person goes into to get on birth control, right.
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It can be, it could be for a number of reasons, not just, uh, sexual activity, sexual activity or pregnancy or, so was there any question about like my why you want it or, yes.
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Okay.
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And then did they ask you anything about like were you sexually active
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on the forms?
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They had almost everything they asked me if I was sexually active.
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They asked if I was like in a healthy relationship and they had questions and I thought that was actually really good that they had a lot of questions on what constitutes as a good and non abusive relationship.
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So that was really nice to see.
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And, um, they also asked about who you were having sex with if you were, they didn't really have like inclusive gender things but it just male, female both, but still, at least they had to me both option.
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Right, right.
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Cause that if I were sexually active that would be the option that I would choose.
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So I'm glad that they had it.
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And there was no question before that about how you identified, so it wasn't like do you identify as LGBT?
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No.
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They just asked you behavior?
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Yes.
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Okay.
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Was the process easy?
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Did you feel comfortable there when you were getting
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yes, it was very comfortable at planned parenthood for me because when the person would ask me questions regarding, um, just the facts and scientific stuff, um, regarding pregnancy prevention and I went over the birth control options.
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So she told me about everything.
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She was very honest with me about like, um, how long did they last and all that kind of stuff.
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Um, but when it came to like asking me personal questions and about just my life in general, even though it had to do with birth control, she was a lot more sensitive when it came to that.
